About Ellie Woodbury

Ellie Family Services’ Woodbury clinic is conveniently located off of Highway 494 and Tamarack Road, about a mile from the intersection of 494 and 94 (across the highway from Costco!). Our Woodbury office is super easy to find, and parking is abundant! We are right next to the Children’s Minnesota Specialty Center and Roger’s behavioral health, and there’s also a couple hotels within a few hundred feet, in case you feel like spending the night close by. We are pretty proud of our light up sign that sits atop the building, and it’s easily seen day or night. It’s even visible from the International Space Station! (not really, but that would be cool, wouldn’t it?).

At Ellie Woodbury, we have some providers who are dang near magical in what they do. Our Woodbury providers are both generalists and specialists- we can see just about anyone and have some key areas of specific expertise… We see both adults, children, couples & families. Ellie Woodbury has several therapists who are highly trained in treating complex trauma, grief and loss.  Our therapists use mindfulness approaches, cognitive behavioral therapy, and dialectical behavior approaches to treat trauma, along with EMDR.  Therapists also are trained to work with gender, and sexual identity, ADHD, divorce, self-harm reduction, chemical dependency.

And we do these too:

  • Trauma work
  • relationship counseling (marriage, divorce, conflict and communication)
  • depression
  • anxiety
  • parenting support
  • OCD
  • job stress and employment issues
  • Psychiatry (medication assistance)
  • And More (check out our provider profiles above for more details!)

*** Oh, did I forget to mention that we have an entire second full office space dedicated to children’s mental health?? At Ellie Woodbury, we have a team of specialists who are dedicated to working primarily with children, and incorporate elements of play therapy and other research-based approaches to navigating childhood mental health, life events, family relationships, issues at school and more. In order to be able to provide the most comprehensive support to young children, our Woodbury office is split into two separate full offices, one for adults and one for kids!

Our kids’ office is full of engaging toys, fidgets, tools and activities for engaging children in self-regulation, stress tolerance, calming and communication skills.  We also have a licensed M.D. psychiatrist who specializes in children’s mental health! Bottom line, Ellie Woodbury has incredible professionals who’ve dedicated their careers to helping kiddos shine- to uncover their inner strengths and use them to navigate major life experiences and developmental stages.

Beyond the clinic, we also offer Community-Based Services of ARMHS, CTSS & In-Home Therapy to residents of Washington County (Please check out our Community-Based Services page for more information on in-home services).

When we’re not working, we love to hang out in the local scene. In case you’re not familiar with the area, Ellie is close to both the Tamarack Village, if you like to get your shop on. For the outdoor enthusiasts, Woodbury is also home to several beautiful parks and trails! To learn more about the area, check out the link below!

Meet Our Woodbury Team

Rose Joiner, MS, LMFT

Clinic Director, Therapist

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Rose considers therapy to be a vital and intrinsic part of our journey in life. In a world that is continually changing, finding ways to adapt to life’s stressors can at times become overwhelming.

Therapy can be a place to reflect, grow and challenge old ways of thinking or being, and create a new way of viewing life, loved ones and ourselves. She believes that all people are valuable, irreplaceable and worthy of growth, change and positivity. She loves working with children, teenagers and adults. She also is an advocate for fostering healthy relationships, within families or couples.

She has experience, but is not limited to people struggling with ADHD, anger issues, trauma, anxiety, depression, grief, relationship issues, gender issues and more.

Rose grew up in Southern California, she went on to receive her Bachelor’s and Master’s degree in Seattle, Washington. She has lived in St.Paul since 2012.

EMDR trained
MN Board Approved Supervisor

Seattle Pacific University, MS Marriage and Family Therapy
Trinity Lutheran College, BA Children, Youth, and Family Studies

Hannah Sockwell, MA, LMFT

Clinic Manager, Therapist

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Hannah is dedicated and driven to work with people to lead their best life. Hannah has a solution focused approach that supports clients while targeting their goals in all areas of life. She supports clients by helping them identify their strengths and utilize them to develop healthy coping skills to manage whatever barriers they are facing. Hannah has a background working with adolescents as well as their families.


Saint Mary’s University of Minnesota, Master of Arts, Marriage and Family Therapy

University of Minnesota, Bachelor of Arts, Major in Psychology, Minor in Family Social Science

Karla Boemer


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Clients who see Karla for therapy can expect a compassionate, “person-centered” experience. She believes clients have the wisdom within themselves to integrate and heal even the most seemingly challenging, traumatic, or complicated experiences, and she trusts their ability to empower themselves. Using a variety of creative mindfulness-based, somatic (felt, sensory experiences) and hypnosis techniques, together you will explore the deeper subconscious underlying beliefs and programs that contribute to present-day problems.
Karla’s specialties include maternal mental health and perinatal mood disorders, as she has a background in childbirth education and served as a childbirth doula for several years. Karla is also a certified hypnotherapist, has taught hypnosis for childbirth and supported dozens of women in childbirth with hypnosis. She uses hypnosis techniques to assist clients with accessing the ability of their subconscious mind to heal childhood wounds, integrate different “parts” of themselves, and overcome unwanted habits and fears. With hypnosis, she uses somatic/sensory information and visualization as powerful tools to facilitate lasting positive changes. She applies a very solution-focused approach while attending to the core existential and spiritual “roots” of herclients’ problems.
Karla’s ideal clients are adolescents ages 10+, women in transition periods in their lives (childbirth, illness, divorce, career changes), and individuals or couples navigating separation / divorce and experiencing co-parenting challenges. Karla enjoys working with individuals who, through transitions and trauma, are questioning the deeper meaning of life and are ready to explore existential and/or spiritual topics that are relevant to their current life situations.
Karla likes to explain her approach as a highly creative solution-focused experience that is rooted in existential psychotherapy to address a variety of mental health disorders, trauma (including complex and developmental trauma) and interpersonal / relationship challenges. While these two therapeutic philosophies may seem to be very different, she has found that people return to a place of balance and peace within themselves when they are able to identify and work toward specific goals to improve their current life through accessing their innate authenticity and deepest values. She enjoys inspiring clients to be more curious about themselves!
Masters – Saint Mary’s University
Licenses and Certifications
Certified Hypnotherapist (CH)
Banyan Center for Hypnosis
Certificate of Holistic Health Studies
University of St. Catherine
Pursuing LPCC licensure

Amanda Boraas, MA, LMFT, LADC

Therapist & Chemical Health Counselor

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Amanda is a directive therapist who is passionate about helping people live more authentic and balanced lives. Amanda’s approach to counseling provides a safe and supportive environment to work towards helping. Amanda is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and Licensed Alcohol and Drug Counselor.

Amanda has worked in the chemical and mental health field since 2012. Her experience comes from working in dual diagnosis treatment programs and hospital settings. She also has experience working in homes with families and in a group private practice. Amanda is trained in EMDR and Emotionally Focused Therapy. Amanda utilizes EMDR to reduce the distressing impact of past experiences. She also utilizes Emotionally Focused Therapy to teach couples how to transform their hurtful patterns of communication into secure ways of connecting. Her systemic counseling approach incorporates techniques from Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Solution Focused Therapy, Experiential Therapy, EMDR, and Emotionally Focused Therapy.

Amanda is passionate about couples’ therapy along with trauma-related work with adults. Amanda works with individuals and couples to create more satisfying relationships, build inner confidence, and develop the strength and resources to face challenges in everyday life. Some of Amanda’s interests include relationship conflict, infidelity, trauma, anxiety, depression, self-esteem, grief, and chemical dependency. Chemical health assessments (Rule 25) available.


Saint Mary’s University: Master of Arts, Marriage and Family Therapy

Metropolitan State University: Bachelor of Science, Alcohol and Drug Counseling, Minor in Psychology


Level 1 & 2 EMDR

Externship in Emotionally Focused Couples Therapy

Karna Boynton, MA, LMFT


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Clients can expect Karna to come alongside them and walk with them as they grow but will not do the hard work for them. They can expect honesty that is presented with empathy and a genuine human to human experience. Clients can expect Karna to be understanding, empathetic, and caring, but will not tiptoe around hard issues. They can especially expect her to bring humor into the therapeutic process in a way that is valuable.

Karna’s ideal client is one who can or is willing to acknowledge that they encompass a strength or set of strengths, even if they cannot see it yet. They can then use these strengths to understand their barriers to growth to overcome their current difficulties and past traumas

Karna’s specialties include: TF-CBT, EMDR (certification in process), Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Person-Centered Therapy

Karna has a strengths-based approach while utilizing client-centered, psychodynamic, EMDR, and cognitive behavioral approaches. She is trauma-informed and seeks to identify and explore possible neurobiological disruptions that may have happened in a person’s life and work towards healing. Karna provides and utilizes a safe and validating therapeutic relationship to help the process of this healing.


Masters – University of Central Florida
Post-Graduate LMFT  Credits – Adler Graduate School

Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist- Minnesota and Wisconsin

Natalie Carstenbrock, APRN, CNP

Sr. Director – Medication Management

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Natalie has a varied career in healthcare, which all started as a childhood dream of helping others. Following her graduation from nursing school, she worked as a registered nurse in a hospital before transitioning into family clinic practice. While working as an anti-coagulation nurse, her passion to bring changes to primary care led her back to school to pursue a life-long dream of becoming a certified nurse practitioner.

After gaining experience working across multiple medical settings, Natalie realized the need for a more holistic approach to medical care. Over the last few years, this understanding has regenerated her passion to fill the gaps in healthcare, and has informed her approach of treating the whole patient, with an emphasis on integrated emotional and mental health, rather than a condition. Natalie has provided comprehensive health care for patients of all ages, at all stages in life.

Natalie understands how difficult it can be to stay on top of it all, especially our health. She believes it is possible to combine therapy and medicine in order to create the best of both worlds. She has experience developing acute care programs within major medical systems and is thrilled to establish a supportive integrated medication management program alongside the world-class therapists and staff at Ellie Family Services!


The College of St. Scholastica, Master of Science, Family Nurse Practitioner

The College of St. Catherine, Bachelor of Science in Nursing

American Nurses Credentialing Center Board Certified Family Nurse Practitioner

Lauren Gavin, MSW, LICSW, RPT


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Lauren is a passionate and empathetic therapist who specializes in working with children and their families. She works to create a safe and comfortable environment to help children give voice to areas where they may be struggling. Lauren is a registered play therapy (RPT) who uses child centered play in her work with children to help them express and navigate the demands of their environment in order to gain a better sense of stability, safety, happiness, and overall wellbeing. Lauren incorporates play therapy, solution-focused therapy, and cognitive-behavioral therapy in her practice with children and families. Lauren works with issues related to childhood adjustment, trauma, grief & loss, divorce, adoption, depression, anxiety, self-esteem, and anger. Lauren has previous experience working in early childhood education, children’s day treatment, school-based therapy, and a hospital setting.

University of St. Thomas & St. Catherine University, Master of Social Work (MSW), Clinical Social Work

College of St. Benedict and St. John’s University, Bachelor of Arts, Psychology

Professional Affiliations:
Association for Play Therapy (APT), Member

Adam Klapperich, DO

Child and Adolescent Psychiatrist

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Dr. Adam Klapperich joined Ellie Family Services on October 8th, 2019 Originally from Aberdeen, South Dakota, he attended the University of South Dakota before graduating from the Kirksville College of Osteopathic Medicine. He completed psychiatric residency and child and adolescent psychiatric fellowship training at the University of Minnesota. Dr. Klapperich sees children and adolescents in the Woodbury Clinic. Dr Klapperich is also a consulting provider for the Psychiatric Assistance Line (PAL), which is a service you can share with your primary care provider to offer access to board certified adult and child psychiatrists for consultation.

Medical Degree: Kirksville College of Osteopathic Medicine, Kirksville, MO
Residency: University of MN, Minneapolis
Fellowship: Child & Adolescent Psychiatry, University of MN, Minneapolis
Board Certification: Adult Psychiatry, Child and Adolescent Psychiatry

American Psychiatric Association
American Academy for Child & Adolescent Psychiatry

Obsessive Compulsive and Impulse Control disorders

Angela Kub


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Angela enjoys working with families and individuals of all age groups but especially adolescents and adults.
Angela believes that every person is doing the absolute best that they can with the tools they are given and sometimes we just need a little extra support and guidance. She views every person within the context of their family/community and therefore she believes mapping out and exploring family dynamics is of great importance. But, by far the most important aspect is the relationship between the therapist and the client. Angela values creating a safe and supportive atmosphere for the client on their journey. She enjoys using elements of movement, nature, art, laughter, mindfulness, and play in session.
Angela’s passion is working with families and individuals that are impacted by depression, anxiety, self-esteem, addiction, and grief/loss.
Masters – Saint Mary’s University of Minnesota
Licenses and Certifications
200-hour certified yoga instructor
Pursuing LMFT licensure

Michael Sadowsky, MSW, MAHS, LGSW


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Michael is a clinical social worker with an integrative and holistic approach to psychotherapy. His practice is rooted in mindfulness, CBT and DBT approaches, and contemporary Psychodynamic therapy. His work also draws from the mind-body connection, spirituality, social/cultural influences, neuroscience, and compassion.

Michael has worked with a diversity of adults and mental health issues in a community mental health clinic, with persons with dementia and their families, and with the bereaved. His background is in social work, which gives him a social justice lens and awareness of how societal factors like inequality and discrimination can affect mental health. He also has a background in holistic health, and is passionate about helping clients integrate their work in therapy with other healthy lifestyle choices and non-Western forms of healing.

Issues that Michael commonly works with include: grief, loss, gender identity, sexual identity, depression, anxiety, trauma, transitions, relationships, ADHD, stress reduction, and resiliency.

Michael brings a warm and non-judgmental presence to his work. He emphasizes safety, attunement, humor, and enjoys being a helper and companion to others as they discover and grow in their own strength and wisdom. He has deep gratitude for this work and for the privilege of being an ally to others on their path to healing.


University of St. Thomas & St. Catherine University, Master of Social Work

St. Catherine University, Master of Arts, Holistic Health Studies

Hamline University, Bachelor of Arts, English


Post-graduate fellowship in contemporary Psychodynamic therapy at Hamm Clinic.

Compassionate Bereavement Care certification from the MISS Foundation.

Melissa Seidel, MSW, LICSW


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Melissa is a Licensed Independent Clinical Social Worker who has experience providing mental health services for children, adolescents and families in a variety of settings, including: in-home, inpatient, partial-hospitalization, outpatient and in-school.

Melissa enjoys working collaboratively with other treatment team members to solve problems associated with mental health symptoms. She believes in giving children, adolescents and families the opportunity to explore their individual thoughts and emotions in a supportive and safe environment. Melissa comes from a strengths-based perspective and uses compassion, creativity and humor in her work. Her therapeutic approach integrates cognitive-behavioral techniques, psychoeducation, psychodynamic and solution focused strategies. She enjoys practicing Acceptance and Commitment therapy and mindfulness.

Melissa commonly works with children, adolescents and families who are experiencing depression, anxiety, ADHD, trauma-related issues, transitions and life changes, gender and sexuality identity issues, grief and loss, communication difficulties, relationship concerns and more.

When not working, Melissa enjoys spending time with her family, playing with her dog, cheering on the Minnesota Wild, traveling, listening to music and going to concerts.


University of Northwestern- St. Paul, Bachelor of Science in Marriage and Family Psychology

St. Catherine University/University of St. Thomas School of Social Work, Masters of Social Work

Minnesota Psychoanalytic Society & Institute- Psychoanalytic Psychotherapy Training Program.

Michelle Smith, MSW, LICSW


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Michelle believes all people have strengths that can be leveraged to assist them in changing and healing. She values the importance of human connection and understands that the therapeutic relationship is vital to recovery; she works to create a safe, supportive environment for clients that includes empathy, understanding, creativity, humor, and partnership around therapy goals.

Michelle is trained in systems theory, mindfulness-based stress reduction, and Trauma-Focused Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (TF-CBT). She comes from a strengths-based perspective and integrates a variety of approaches including CBT, solution-focused interventions, client-centered, strengths-based, motivational interviewing, acceptance and commitment therapy, and art-based approaches to assist clients with achieving their goals. She enjoys working with children, teenagers and adults on a variety of issues related to attachment, trauma, sibling/peer conflict, family communication difficulties, anxiety, mood disorders, anger management, self-esteem issues, self-harm, grief, school issues, and relational issues. Michelle understands and values the important role that a client’s family, friends, and other relationships play in their lives and works with clients to utilize these relationships to assist with healing.

Michelle has previous experiences providing therapy and skills services in home-based, school-based, and outpatient settings and worked in community mental health assisting adults with severe and persistent mental illness.


College of St. Scholastica – Twin Cities, Bachelor of Social Work
St. Catherine University/University of St. Thomas School of Social Work, Masters of Social Work

Professional Affiliations:

Member, National Association of Social Workers (NASW)

Darcy Steinhaus, MSW, LGSW


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Darcy has worked with clients with the presenting issues and diagnoses: colonization, depression, PTSD, unspecified trauma and other stressor related disorders, anxiety, reactive attachment disorder, neurodevelopmental disorders, conduct disorders, and disruptive impulse control.


Darcy’s ideal clients are between the ages of 0 and 18. Many of the clients she works with and their families are impacted by homelessness, poverty, domestic violence, incarceration, separation, early death, mental illness, addiction, colonization, chemical dependency, historical trauma, and complex trauma.


When seeing Darcy for therapy, clients can expect to enter a space that is warm, welcoming, and free of judgement. Darcy strives to ensure that comfortable are comfortable in the therapeutic space. As a play therapist, she utilizes a non-directive approach to therapy. Darcy allows the client to lead the session and she is there to be a safe person in the therapeutic journey.


Darcy places specific focus on the person-in-environment. When working with children, it is impossible to ignore their surroundings which have direct impacts on functioning. Darcy also focuses on the relationship itself, concentrating on the therapist-client relationship, as well as the caregiver-client relationship.



University of Minnesota-Twin Cities


Licenses and Certifications
Licensed Graduate Social Worker (LGSW)

Experiential Play Therapy (EPT) certification

DC: 0-5 certification

TF-CBT certification

Kelly Wallner

Medication Management Assistant

Isaac Wicker, MS


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Isacc has worked with a wide range of people struggling with the whole spectrum of mental health disorders as well as all sorts of practical barriers from physical ailments and financial concerns, to addiction and employment issues.  His specialties within this wide range is on anxiety and depression with a special emphasis on understanding and honoring what your symptoms are trying to tell you and then working with yourself to live out your values and reach your goals.
Isaac’s technique in its simplest form is “let’s figure out what works for you.  Then let’s do it!”  Most of the materials that he uses regularly in session are materials that he’s created to fit the needs of a particular person and then discovered that other people also found them useful.  He’s always looking for new perspectives on both problems and solutions.  That said, he almost always focuses on understanding a person’s values and how those values translate into goals, decision making, and behaviors.
When you come to see Isaac, you can expect the following:
·        Listening
·        Collaboration
·        A focus on your personal values
·        A focus on your goals (and dreams!)
·        An emphasis on personal decision making in and out of session
·        An emphasis on working with yourself and honoring yourself instead of waging war with yourself
·        Interventions and pacing adapted to your style
·        Attention to personal patterns, but very little emphasis on diagnoses
Isaac’s ideal client is someone who comes ready to be honest and to try.  Your honesty will help him better understand what the heart of the issue is, and by trying out new things, you both will be able to test and find what actually works.
Masters – Illinois State University
Pursuing LPCC licensure


Ellie Family Services
652 Bielenberg Dr., Suite 104
Woodbury, MN 55125
Phone: 651.313.8080
Fax: 651.925.0610